<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" ><channel><title>FoOlRulez &#187; wikipedia</title> <atom:link href="http://foolrulez.org/blog/tag/wikipedia/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://foolrulez.org/blog</link> <description>We translate it because we want to read it!</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 08:58:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>Wikipedia does not recognize the fact that scanlators exist.</title><link>http://foolrulez.org/blog/2009/08/wikipedia-does-not-recognize-the-fact-that-scanlation-exist/</link> <comments>http://foolrulez.org/blog/2009/08/wikipedia-does-not-recognize-the-fact-that-scanlation-exist/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:29:40 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>woxxy</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Anime/Manga]]></category> <category><![CDATA[controversial]]></category> <category><![CDATA[scanlation]]></category> <category><![CDATA[scanlators]]></category> <category><![CDATA[wikipedia]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://foolrulez.org/blog/?p=2992</guid> <description><![CDATA[It came up to my ears, so I checked, and here's my little opinion, shall it be right or wrong, on what's happening in the "free" encyclopedia.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">This is one of those controversial problems that show how information is curved by morals that aren&#8217;t shared by everyone.</p><p style="text-align: justify;">I&#8217;ll be honest, in FoOlRulez we perfectly know what are we doing with scanlation, and how the law is being really &#8220;nice&#8221; to overlook scanlators, as only the companies publishing official mangas can start the action, and not anyone else. We also know, the companies use the mangas scanlators make famous in order to sell more.</p><p style="text-align: justify;">Now, what is happening in <strong>Wikipedia (or at least, thanks to its members)</strong> is simply ridiculous: scanlation groups shouldn&#8217;t be mentioned, no, not even by scratching the limits. The only reasonable story is about Snoopycool being C&amp;D&#8217;d (what happens before legal action, asking to cease the work on a manga).</p><p style="text-align: justify;">One of the members (not a team members, yet an old user) of FoOlRulez planned to try making a  FoOlRulez page in wiki, according to purely real informations and statistics, giving also a decent number of sources, that can&#8217;t be called officially reliable, yet solid: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FoOlRulez">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FoOlRulez</a> (the article might be already deleted once you broswe it). The article is of course, beside the really logic request of deletion for lack of notability (basically, being named on magazine or newspapers), it&#8217;s also been tagged as made by the owner of FoOlRulez (which is not, I am not on Wikipedia) so not a reliable person, and has been called out for illegal material on this website.</p><p style="text-align: justify;">I have a precise point of view on the fact that wikipedians are trying to avoid scanlations and fansubs, after I read few discussions.</p><ol style="text-align: justify;"><li>Scanlation (and anime fansubs) are a great share of today&#8217;s internet&#8217;s band use, and seeing Google trends and Alexa, one can easily say that it&#8217;s more than 5% of the overall. Five percent is a real lot on the internet, and it&#8217;s going to grow steadily by going down with the age of the users, and<strong> most likely around 13-24 years old there will be a heap of anime watchers on the internet over 15%.</strong></li><li>There are groups, king on all Dattebayo (talking about fansubs to not be in conflict with scanlation groups), with millions of viewers every month, but since it was never mentioned on a newspaper, or magazine, or notable blog, they are noone. Who doesn&#8217;t know Dattebayo here? Do you even watch anime? Dattebayo for sure deserves a post, as it has been a really influential group not only into fansubs, but also to millions of watchers. <strong>Also if not all groups should be named, there are some who signed a age.</strong></li><li><strong>Anime/Manga news websites aren&#8217;t notable, none of them.</strong> Anime News Network too, it&#8217;s not a reliable source for Wikipedia, and furthermore, will never talk about fansubs or scanlations. Being there no sources considered reliable for Wikipedia,  there&#8217;s no chance something about anime/manga that is beyond the episode/chapter and official news from the mangaka/studio will get into it. We know what&#8217;s behind the curtain, and it&#8217;s far bigger than what&#8217;s written.</li><li>Notability rules promote the bad guys: what&#8217;s Crunchyroll doing there? They make people pay for fansubs, and there&#8217;s a wikipedia about the controversy. <strong>It feels like a newspaper: the</strong><strong> bad things are highlighted, and criminals are far more known than who does a (more) honest life</strong>. This is all because Crunchyroll was for negative reasons on the newspapers.</li><li><strong>Dealing scanlation like a taboo</strong>, where an encyclopedia should be open to including anything, shall it be legal or not. Not linking to (suspectedly) copyright infringing websites can be understandable, but not even <em>mentioning </em>is not a valid reaction to the phenomena that has spread in last six years, counting over 800 active scanlators in the last 6 months. Is it a lot? It&#8217;s a lot more if you scan all the years.</li></ol><p style="text-align: justify;">I honestly think Wikipedia users in manga/anime section are misbehaving, bringing up a flag of cleanliness while dealing with Wikipedia like their blog instead of a website where facts should be told, and not only the nice side of the world. Yes, even if this is the world of Otakus, there should be maximum seriousness, as we know there&#8217;s a &#8220;dark side&#8221;, that, supposedly, is in FoOlRulez too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://foolrulez.org/blog/2009/08/wikipedia-does-not-recognize-the-fact-that-scanlation-exist/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>12</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
